What about those grips? Go to your search engine and type this clown’s name in. I don’t want to drop too much money into it right now. I almost guarantee once you’ve shot for awhile your taste will change. I easily fire groups under 1 inch at 20 feet. As it is, the SD9VE is quite a value. Travel for a living and am new to guns. I have a SD40Ve that’s 3years old. You’ll notice things like the stamped sheet metal slide release and plastic guide rod. is it came with two 10 round mags due to NY state regulations and i live in Vermont which is far more lenient on anything But Jim! The pistol is very tight when new. To me there is no question about it, I bought my 2022 new for about $440 and it’s the best handgun I’ve used. Why yes, yes they are. They also offer a .40 caliber version. very thoroughly….SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go up 90-130rd of winchester and other cleaner burning rounds before the residue will start to affect your consitancy and 3rd trip was after I changed that lame polymer guide rod for a Galloway all metal one. After handling as many different guns as I could find (every seller had at least three Glocks on display), I made a 2nd trip around the tables to narrow down my choice. The trigger pull is a matter of getting used to since it is a safety factor, I had 4 total jams from my Ruger in the past 2 range outings. so if you are shooting If that gun works for you very very well, keep it. Writing for TTAG has made me kind of a snob when it comes to firearms. Thanks for the review. Went to Academy and she tried a few in her hand and liked how the SD9VE felt. Not heard good things about their AEK trigger. You can beat that. 199 plus tax. My two prior SD9VE’s were sold via Florida Gun Trader within three days. however the line does begin to devide Dear Sirs/Madam: I am writing to you so that I may be of help in overturning the California “Handgun Roster” Monopoly and restoring 2nd Amendment rights to California firearms consumers. Yes, the trigger is still relatively long and heavy but safer for carry IMO. I managed group sizes of just a few inches at 7 yards that really started to open up as the firing rate increased. I don’t care where I hit. It is also appreciably thinner. No doubt there are some FINE handguns out there. I have this weapon in my home for my wife. I have one of those and the Smith Bodyguard380 and they are great “little” pocket pistols. There are some surgeries which are performed on the basis of Anyway, a Youtube video shws how to fix the problem. Oh! for that more experianced shooter whom loves 6 pound highly reactive trigger. My new SD9ve, (with two mags), cost me 318.00 with tax. In fact a short light trigger pull causes you to fire prematurely. This time around, I’ll have a few goodies to go with it. WILL I carry this gun…no. Speaking of which, who’s got the better kit: Apex or Galloway? smaller or unknown brands. It fit my hand real comfortable,,sold it and bought the M&P 40 full size. this pistol honestly has helped train Two mags included and a – thin – what and how to do with the piece manual. You definitely get more gun for your money with a Glock or M&P, but I do like the SD’s. At this price point, though, you can’t have all the things you want, and I get that. I think this gun is perfect for me, I couldn’t pass it up at $170 plus tax. I’ll do a little polishing and shoot it a while before crossing that bridge. I would rather not get put on any kind of list for doing something that you and i think is stupid. When Congress deems an act of Interstate Commerce to be in need of Supervision, it will enact legislation that must have some real and rational relation to the subject of regulation. My 2nd gripe is with the takedown tabs- no way to get an easy purchase, my fingers kept slipping off the tabs. Anyway, I tested out the S&W M&P 9mm & .40, Beretta PX4 9mm & .40, and the Springfield XD(M) 9mm & .40. How about waiting 42 days for your second pistol, so to collect an interesting 8 pistol collection I had to put up with califarcia’s senator Leland Yee’s Illegal laws for half a year…california state senator leland yee…ring a bell??? I got it for 289 at academy and it been a pretty solid gun. So you do have a basis for comparison. The mag release is easy enough to reach as is the slide release. Mechanically it functions with all of the same parts. I have owned a glock 21 and a ruger sp101 so am familiar with more expensive guns and their trigger pulls for comparison. I inherited the S&W SD9VE. I’ll also mention that I’m used to DOA triggers with revolvers and my 2 very nice Kahr arms 9mm triggers. RE: about what I said regarding trigger weight. Customize This: * * *  Total cost for the completed pistol = 422.40. Stay aware and keep the faith. I am a believer in value. ater that range, now that is because the twist of the barrel on the glock is far more tuned and the These SDVE Series Pistols are worth every penny and shoot just incredibly great with ALL the Sigma mistakes Corrected/Perfected in these beauties. Rather than crack the frame, I said, “Screw it,” and left it strock – which a lot of people have chosen to do after the Apex hysteria has worn off. Bought a Sigma 9m/m 4 inch new in 2006. Well, here in Maryland (which we call California east) we too have our share of crooked politicians. That should take a hammer and punch to remove and reseat, So back it went to the shop and put in for a replacement. I’d prefer the same system the M&P uses, but again, cost wins out. I was concerned, a little, about no safety, but after a year of loading and unloading (living on the state line and waiting on my “Permit” that will allow legal travel between several states without having to lock in my glove box) It’s become a daily routine and though I give each exchange a PURPOSEFUL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT to each one after I shot a whole in the floor clearing (not) the gun. I appreciate your review. Perhaps you’re the “entry level pistolero” that you just so happen to be recommending the gun for, or your delicate little index finger can’t handle it…possibly both. so there’s one thing the sd9 has over the glock out of box is the ability to shoot fairly true, dependent on user. (BTW, Palmetto State Armory PSA is still selling them for $199). My SD weighs 4 oz lighter than my my M&P 40 which i love by the way. Okay, perfect. So far, needing to buy only 9MM and 22LR ammunition is Very helpful for the Wallet. ALTAMONT® products are produced under S&W License. does have a long trigger pull but works every time. I have shot Federal, Winchester, Hornaday, PMC in the 40VE with no issue’s. Does my SD9 go bang every time I pull trigger? it will defend you that is for sure, ranged shots will have to be thought out. It pays to shop around. It’s great. It’s also the only time I’ve heard that mentioned. Never the less, ignore the “cheap” price. Yes our gunshop has lifted the 2 box per caliber limit on handgun ammo. I like this gun an awful lot. I did want a defensive handgun for my home. Much improved. It only weighs 2 oz more than my M&P shield and its basically just about as tall with the shield having its higher cap mag in it. Viewed several You Tube Videos for mods. Factor an extra $20 plus shipping into the cost of the gun and you can rock on down the road with a still long, but very manageable six pound trigger pull. That and 3 FTFs and 2 stove pipes in 500 rounds with factory ammo. No accidental discharges that way. Nope, can’t happen. You have entered an incorrect email address! OK get real. That is the more likely purchase actually. Everything from Winchester white box to some cheep walmart fmj. The third time was the charm, after another 100 rounds the sear assembly pin walked out, twice. A lot of online dealers are selling the SD’s with only one mag and unless you read their ad carefully, you might get scammed. Way back in the 90s, I had a guy try to crawl in through a window, and made him leave at gunpoint. Use CRC Power Lube for it ONLY and save a bundle. POWER TO REGULATE: The graphite also fills up any pits or pockmarks in the metal. I also had two failures to fire running a hotter +P round, but I think it’s because I didn’t let the trigger reset right. 5.25lbs (avg of 3 pulls). Love Vermont, as the practical application of a 10rd mag is kind of lacking in a self deference The VE is a natural pointer, and feels very comfortable in my mitts. for 25% less (+ or -) than it was new, and everything swings…. SIG is an overpriced boat anchor. I can tell you that these have performed flawlessly. But, with regards to the PT111, it has the long travel pull to provide more time to intervene and think about pulling it all the way back, which is the only way to release the trigger safety and fire the gun. Stay safe all. now this gun always shot low left Le portail boursorama.com compte plus de 30 millions de visites mensuelles et plus de 290 millions de pages vues par mois, en moyenne. It did again on the 2nd magazine. An UNARMED Good Samaritan confronted the Knife Armed perp and the perp ran off. One showed my how to remove two of the three springs on the sear. I do notice that with 16 rounds in the mag it does not lock into the gun as easily leaving a chance that the mag could fall out if you move your hand away before you notice. Don’t get it! As for the handgun. but because of the trigger I bought this firearm! I’m surprised by the prices you quote on the 2 guns. Its going to take a pretty good gun to replace my Ruger SP101 2.25 inch with new trigger job and MePro sights, but on a rainy day I might just throw this one in the glove box. Now, that’s a hell of a bargain for a gun with outstanding reliability, ease of feel, and a rock thrower than will fire anything in 9mm that you feed it. Roseville, Ca 95678 Bellevue, Wa 98005. But I’ve been a gun owner my whole life, getting my first when I was 16 that I bought with money I saved for since I was 14 mowing lawns for 5 dollars a pop, which was good money in the 70’s. The front sight has a bright, white dot that makes target acquisition a snap. A call to S&W askin g for SD base plates got two sent to me first class for free. I fired a mag through it and never had any problem. I didn’t even get a chance to manipulate the slide lock spring, as recommended, because not even a punch and mallet would move this pin. Anyway, bought this pistol in the spring….my first ever semi-auto….but only began firing it recently…..and shortly after I added a Glock 21 Gen 4 to my paltry collection. After about three mags, it loosened up, and the groups started tightening up to point of aim. The increase in adrenalin is a consequence of a strong emotional response to a “fear of attack,” and we would have two instinctual choices to make, if not for substituting learned responses instead. However, in order to effect the “fight or flight” response, these normal limitations must be circumvented, and one way of doing that is inhibiting the “pain reflex.”. me quite well, i handle a glock like a fracking boss because i got used to all of the mannerisms of the sd9 honestly i just So imagine my surprise when I took it out of the box and found it feels good in the hand. Not to mention, it voids your lifetime warranty with S&W. IMO, whether it is an activity that creates the distraction or some chemical change in your body cretes it, the outcome is the same: you do something that, had you been aware of it at the time, you never would have done. It’s reliable and easy to use. A handgun to me needs to WORK, every time, be, for me a natural pointer and have the ergonomics I require. S&W medallions are now available in S&W grips. I upgraded the trigger, springs and guide rod all by myself thanks to YouTube instruction from Apex. My first handgun was a 9mm Sigma. I was able to control the 9’s a lot easier than I could the .40’s. Even in the one handed and left handed drills I shot straight, had zero malfunctions, and the only reason I am not still at the range is I did eventually need to go to work. within that range it is good i like it! gradually improve hyaluronic achid levels to that of far more youthful skin. I’m used to a heavy trigger pull. Get with the program, The Ladies Know…They are Smart….SD9VE is a great pistol…Waiting for the SD9VE in ALL Blackmatt, Love My TwoTone. But yea I must have got a good 1st gen SD40 black mellonite. Another big difference is that Apex kit does not come with a lighter sear spring while Galloway does. I’m impressed and I hope the SD9 VE is a big seller for Smith & Wesson. Thank you for the tip with the triggersping set. I got mine for 329 i love it 400 rounds in and no problems. When your adrenaline is pumping you will not notice the long trigger pull. If there are guns with more bells and whistles, so what? Also an M&P 9 model 206301 w/manual safety….smith&Wesson, Your SD VE Series are BlockBusters. I did shoot 50 rounds of Corbon JHP and Hornady Critical Defense. This pistol compared to my CZ75B is pretty light and easy on the wrist; Ladies Love It?? Oh, it’s back there somewhere, but it’s no comfort in knowing that can’t go past the grip. Hey, you got rid of the HiPoint, you just saved your life ahead of time! Happy as a range toy, concealed carry piece, or “extra” self defense gun around the house/vehicle. have owned 3 glocks and much prefer the s&w sigma. While I enjoy the ergonomics of the grip and it shoots nice, my overall impression is it is poorly designed and if you’re going to spend the money, just shell out the extra few bucks and get a better firearm, instead of a cheap one. The Smith&Wesson SD9VE is perfect weight and is very accurate. I’ll continue to drive a Ford pick-up rather than an Avalanche. I polished up the trigger mechanism with a dremel and have had zero issues. I’m kinda partial to the M&P models, but might stage one at home. Also, if you stage the trigger (and nearly every SD owner does), having that return pull doesn’t help in that regard, either. There’s much to be said for that. I even tried holding it lower with both thumbs, with one hand across the front of the trigger guard, and even one-handed. I ended up buying her a Bersa UC 9mm Pro. The “loaded when up” firing chamber safety flag is Exclusive California Compliant and makes these handguns Collectors Pistols aside from being Incredibly EXCELLENT Value Packed 9MM HandGuns. If there are prettier guns, so what? getting to a point of many, i shoot weekly, on average about 10 mags every weekend on the range, i shoot side by side Then picked up the two tone Sigma 40VE, sold it 2 weeks later. Cost? After the trade-in, it cost me 50.00 so I was happy with that. I watch shooters at the range shooting 2500-3000 dollar 1911s and have nothing but problems. Based on the recent TTAG reader survey, it looks like our readers want to read more about budget-minded guns. It just needs a few tweaks to make it work for me. Overall Rating: * * * * By creating the pistol firing pin micro stamping monopoly scheme, these expedient politicians created an exclusive “California DOJ approved firearms maker list” allowing only those manufacturers who comply with The Monopoly to sell product to the California firearms consumer market. For the money, I am very happy with it. One of the hidden dangers of *really* short SBRs is that it’s way too easy to get your support hand forward of the muzzle. Plus, there are several different skin types that need specific skin care formulations. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. That adds nothing here. #4 Trigger pivot (a solid polymer rocker on a solid polymer ramp)*. There’s no point. No comparison at least for me. that’s all you can afford – buy the SD9 VE . That little quirk is naturally, thanks to the craptastic trigger. and it actually has places for you to rest your finger so i like the hand hold that was well made in my book Cardboard box She’s more than happy that I got her a S&W which means that I get to spoil myself. It feels and handles well, is fairly accurate, and the trigger pull wasn’t a problem to me except affecting accuracy when rapid firing. probally to 7.5 pounds i would have to say. I guess I’m going to have to try some of it, where do you get it? No changeable backstraps here, though, so try before you buy. I know I sort of wandered off topic here, but I wanted to say that the feel of the SDVE, its natural pointing position, and wide sight radius are what sold me on the gun. I bought my Ruger P95 9mm in 2010 (TX) and loved it. 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