My best success (if you want to call it that) seems to have been with my thinned mixture of Vallejo Model Color Matte Varnish with a couple drops of Liquitex Flo-Aid added. <_<. Too much Flat Base causes the frosty surfaces. Does anyone knows the biggest difference between these two? some say to use it. the rattle cans is the same stuff as the bottle, juset that you need to thin the stuff in the bottle before you spray it. I would have accepted it was my own fault (as I have made several mistakes with varnishing in the past)in some manner of application, if other modelers and retailers were not reporting the same results. Rick_Q, Well, that was a waste on an entire day. Cheers Mike, you`ve inspired me to stick some on :D, General Discussion - NO POLITICS. 10ml Mini. X-21 is a flating agent—don't use it straight. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. × Allow the paint to be clear-coated to fully cure before applying TS80. Just a heads up on some of these labeled cans that may still be in circulation. But if you want to create some effect for tyres, this flat base can work. FREE Shipping on orders over … The eyes were masked off and got a glossy coat using Tamiya X-22 "Clear Gloss" applied with a brush. These spray paints were developed especially for decorating transparent polycarbonate bodies used in R/C car modeling. I can't speak for the other brands, but I have used the Vallejo Matt Varnish with no problems. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. Beware that it requires precision mixing ratio to get the desired flat level. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 01:39 AM UTC. $12.57 $ 12. 3.4oz (100ml) can of Tamiya Color Spray Lacquer for Plastic Models (TS-80 Gloss Clear) For Adult Modelers Only.   Pasted as rich text. A closer look- Testors, Tamiya, Vallejo, and Armory. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. I'm confused now. I have been using 2 parts X-21 Flat Base to 3 parts Future as a flat coat for 5 years and it always gives me a perfect dead flat finish with no problems. The White is actually trapped water vapor. I used one on a `copter and it was fine, next day I used it on a jet and...disaster! If only varnishing was so simple...Ahhhh. Then flat coat with another type of coat. yes, it is just fine. I did have some Floquil Reefer White yellow after I hit it with Testor Dullcote (in the rattle can) but that was probably more because I didn't let the paint dry long enough. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:02 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:59 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 11:59 PM UTC. From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:43 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80 spray can I’ve had sputtering rattle cans of Dullcoat ruin freight car finishes. We are shipping online orders as usual during the COVID-19 event. TS-80 Flat Clear. It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat.   Your link has been automatically embedded. I've literally spent my entire day trying to figure out a solution to the white, dusty flat coat quandary. The same can be done with Future. You could try (test first) spraying a clear gloss coat in order to fill in some of the refractive parts of the flat coat. Sometimes I got frosty surfaces on the model because of this Dull Coat. Same thing with their gloss paints. I love Testors Dull Cote. 183 Sold. May also be used on Metal Parts. A heavy coat gives the solvents more time to attack the other paints. Some of these I really haven’t heard too much about being used for BJDs. More info and pictures: If you don't have an airbrush, get some Mr Topcoat or another acrylic clear coat for best results. It can be mixed in varying amounts with gloss acrylic (only) paints to produce any desired level of reflectance, including Tamiya clear gloss coat. ive used krylon matte finish clear coat and also mr clear top coat flat. Altough it must be stirred & thinned well to get the best result. × I love the smell of dull coat in the morning. This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. Or for brushing try … And here's Frankenstein's penguin in all its glory, painted solely using Tamiya brush paints + pastel chalk for weathering and a flat clearcoat sprayed on top. Lusterless Flat Lacquer Clear Coat Testors Customers also viewed these products. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. Our retail location is PICKUP ONLY. Never clogged, and always comes out flat. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:34 PM UTC. Testor Dull Coat is good. I have been using Liqutex matt varnish thinned slightly with water and some of their Slow-Dri Fluid Retarder for almost a year now with no problems.It sprays well and is cheap to use.Jeff T. The building lamp is lit.Build'em if you got'em. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:12 AM UTC, Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:13 AM UTC. You can post now and register later. I don't like Dullcoat either and agree that Polly Scale is the best one out there. Find great deals on eBay for tamiya clear and tamiya clear spray. 18 product ratings - Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. I've never used this product before, but my understanding is that it is specifically intended for use as a final coat (and is a different product than Tamiya Flat Base X21.) Acrylic paints dry extremely quickly which can cause the frosting effect. I can't remember the number, but the Tamiya web site would list it. 1-16 of 49 results for "tamiya clear coat" Skip to main search results Eligible for Free Shipping. in which i explore the many legends of this apparently magical way of making yo model shine like a diamond in a goat's ass. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:34 PM UTC. Cheers Mike, you`ve inspired me to stick some on :). Now, this is different stuff than MM flat clear. Stickers were subsequently applied on said cans stating ` don`t use with brushing paint for 7 days`. I've used Testors dulcote for ever straight from the spray can without much problem.I had 1 hard lesson at first,that it had to be shaken very well first,my finished model was a write off as it turned into totally white dust.I am going to try something Gino suggested on another post.Modelmaster lusterless flat,#1960.I had no idea it existed and I have yet to find it. Several applications should make the Flat Base clear again so you can apply a proper flat clear. Applying clear coat … No outright frosting, like you get if you spray Tamiya Flat Base straight, but varying degrees of a dusty layer that looks more like weathering than a clear coat. Yeah, I was a Humbrol man untill they changed formula and only, initially, advertised it as `new formula`, with no mention of the potential harm it could do if you sprayed it on their own enamel paint. Humbrol matt or satin varnish for me! Tamiya acrylic paint, XF-86 Flat clear. +C $25.05 shipping. or Best Offer. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, Rick, You could look at it the way I do. As Si said Tamiya Clear is added to matt paint to give a gloss finish and Flat Base is added to gloss paint to give a matt finish. On the bench: Dragon flakvierling with armoured cab + AM Works PE, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 01:49 PM UTC. Looking at your pictures Bill I'm getting a bit of this too, only nowhere near as bad. Canada Post is not updating tracking information on a regular basis. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. It tries to stink me out and I battle back with dull coat, model master white or metalizers. it works with the rattle cans too, its just easier to get a light coat with an airbrush. If either Clear or Flat Base … That stinks too. Unless you have the spray can version, then just shake it well. Always turns out, never failed me yet and been using it for years and years. 4.8 out of 5 stars 382. Honestly, most of the time, I use Tamiya Clear Flat Lacquer in a spray can. I haven't used Model Master dull or gloss to know if they yellow over time though. The main problem is that no matter what formulas, brands, thinning ratios or ritual dances to the modeling gods I use, I always end up with a finish that makes the model look dusty. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. I had a small plastic tub (with a lid) of a desert yellow which kept liquid for 2 weeks after I added two drops of extender to the mix. Shop with confidence. Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. i much prefer mr clear, but its more expensive for a lesser quantity. TS80 Flat Clear is useful to clear coat glossy paint finishes that you desire to have a final flat look. Tamiya paint will often do this regardless of colours, it's not great to brush as the thinner will re-activate prior coats even when dry. Recently I went to my local hobby store and picked out some clear matte sealants. Customs services and international tracking provided. 57. But I don't put down anything before i use dullcote. the krylon is cheaper, but a larger can. C $20.68. From United States +C … Testors dullcoat, what goes underneath it? Greetings all. I find anything other than a flat clear coat … the finish is much more noticeable than the krylon in my opinion. I don't know if it is as "flat" as Testors, but at least it will be compatible with your color coats. The more you add, the flatter it gets. It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? Get ready for some science experiments… Testors Clear Coat What's the true story? Ideal for preparing ABS and Styrene plastic for paint. I use it to add some flat to Tamiya Smoke for wheel well weathering. (all these acryllic users were making me feel like the last smoker in the bar), ? Brand New. My short term memory is getting really bad....and so is my short term memory. Is it okay to use the laquer if i do it lightly? I hope that Humbrol have sorted out their problems as I once found their products ultra-reliable untill my desert jets came out looking like they`d been covered in (1)snow or (2) paintstripper. C $12.05; Buy It Now +C $29.74 shipping I did have one jar that tended to leave small white specks on the finish, but that may have been a bad batch as I haven't had that problem with subsequent jars. I ordered some tamiya base and i have a bottle of future to thin it out. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:21 PM UTC. Lacquer just tends to be "hotter" than other types so you have to be careful using it over other paints. Painting polycarbonate bodies is done from the inside of the body shell as opposed to the outside of a traditional plastic model. Top Rated Seller Top Rated Seller. Are you talking about the spray cans on the stuff in the bottles? This batch has since been recalled from major retaillers but I have seen a few still on the market in smaller outlets. Ive tried MM acryl flat but for me I feel that it is a bit too flat of a coat. In my experience airbrushing it, it dries to the touch within a few minutes, and at about 30 minutes to an hour you can easily apply decals. Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. ... Tamiya TAM87131 Black Planel Line Accent 4.8 out of 5 stars 1,504. Seems that it's a condition that is the end result of the Tamiya Flat and Future when their is to much humidity in the air. Some people say dont use laquer. But what about yellowing, I've read on this forum where Testors MM dullcote and glosscote turn yellow over time. the effect seems a little less noticeable, and it … Carefully sand down the coat with a fine grit sand paper/ polishing cloth to cut through the refraction of the flat coat. Buy It Now. New (11) from $12.75 & … Stupid eats on the other side of the room. I think the testors dullcote has just a bit more sheen than acryl flat, which i like. I'm interested in what you find that works. So you are telling me that is designed to work as a mixing agent with other paints...... well on that case I think I am going to stick with testors.... just open all the windows and door before I shoot, woo hoo, another lacquer purist! The extender does exactly what it says...extends the drying time to ensure wet paint is hitting the surface. Testors TENAMEL-1247 Aerosol Enamel Paint, 3 oz, Gloss Black 4.5 out of 5 stars 165. However, they did and although I have never heard an official line from Humbrol, I assume that the withdrawal of this product by the company itself flags up the dangers of using any of these cans still in circulation. I like the Tamiya sprays by far compared to Army Painter and Citadel (clear coats and primers), but I wish they came in a bigger can. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:57 PM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:09 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:21 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC. By 100ml of paint. I just ordered a bottle of Tamiya XF86, and will post my findings as soon as I shoot it. Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 22. TAMIYA PS-55 Flat Clear Polycarbonate Spray 100Ml - 75-T86055. but litter fumes don't kill brain cells, just make you.... :D I hate cats and their smell, plus the damn things shed and hairs get in your models.... anyways, I had to claim my minute of anger. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:29 AM UTC. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, but.... would I get the same results as testors? Beats the crap of out cat........crap. I swore those off many years ago. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:45 AM UTC. I've done some more testing using the suggestions from you all, but unfortunately don't have any real progress to report. Each can contains 100ml of paint, which is the appropriate amount for finishing one complete model. there is nothing wrong with lacquer per se. Here's my honest advice as I've heard of this issue before. CDN$15.99. Otherwise, you can use Tamiya X-22 Clear Gloss mixed with X-21 Flat base to make a suitable acrylic flat coat. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. Overall it's much better to spray it on. I also have a few rattle cans of MM laquer. It's readily available here in Australia. I absolutely love David Gilmour's guitar work. Paste as plain text instead, × Tamiya makes a flat clear. Too little Flat Base have no effect on the paint.   Your previous content has been restored. The more you add, the flatter it gets. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 02:50 AM UTC, Thanks for all the responses thus far. For best results allow up to one week. Perhaps you should ask a different question. The key is to spray light, mist coats and not soak the surface. The one thing you havent mentioned is an 'extender'. 19d 23h left (22/6, 22:36) From United States. You should be okay if you do it lightly. This went Pete Tong and they replaced the stickers with ones saying `don`t use with enamel or acrylic paint`. And picked out some clear matte sealants should make the flat coat from cracking due to different cure from... 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